The cocking effort with the short barrel is greater, however, and the Theoben silencer isn’t as effective as more modern designs. I bought the gun used, my 2nd attempt at mastering the magnum .177. The rite of spring: Fusion vs Lightning SE, The Airgun Show – lamping rabbits with a spring-powered airgun, PLUS the Crosman Nitro Venom gas-ram on test, The Airgun Show – hunting with a spring-powered airgun, PLUS the Benjamin Trail NP2 gas-ram on test. 3,048. The very fast locking time and the recoil reducing system as well as its stable and solid conception are the out-standing features. IMHO, the opposite is true. I've removed the stock and schrader value sealing screw with o-ring. Attempted a valve core replacement on an eliminator today. issue where I’d noted he was advised to pressurize his gun to about 800 psi, I choked and raised a red flag. I think the “tissue” test might be deceiving in this case. So I bought a gas ram theoben on a Wim, Yeah I know!!! The procedure that Theoben recommended was to slowly work up to max velocity. Is this about right? The Theoben H.E. Just proceed as if it is a low pressure system (slowly) until the desired velocity is obtained I using the slim jim. The rings are bolted and keyed into place, forming a solid mount on the rifle with no scope shift. The Fenman was an ultra carbine with an 8” barrel, when other carbines were twice the length or more – yet it was consistent, accurate and very well balanced. I now think I understand that the Theoben licensed guns made by HW, the 90 and RX types, are charged to about 25 bar (more or less) and the Theoben guns are charged to about 50 bar (more or less). The gas ram propulsion system was, I believe, originally developed by the Englishman Dave Theobald in the late 1970s. Theoben .22 Eliminator-Outfit Break Barrel - Gas Ram Air Rifle (R/H) - S/H Rifles stocked with Hyedua have therefore become much sought after as a result. seem to think you’ve been around these parts a very long time..... Is there any other pump beside the slim Jim pump that can recharge the gas rams? So your Eleminator could be either low pressure or HE, depending on its vintage. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > The barrel on mine seems to “sag” at discharge ever so slightly. Their piston guns use a patented High Efficiency (HE) gas ram system that replaces the metal spring with an air spring. In 25 years it has only required a new safety and occasional breech seal. The adapter only needs to be finger tight with Dowty washer. Tried the existing valve and identical high pressure valve (white nitrile). This rifle is a great option for those looking for a gun that is just as comfortable punching paper targets as it is taking small game in the field. Chrono with jsb exacts for a steady reading of 11.3,it's. If you decide to work on it yourself, I'd be glad to gi... Limbshaker & Ed, A good friend has a 90 in .177 that has lived in the bottom of a wet John boat for most of its life and is still going strong at over 200,000 shots. My first Eliminator arrived from Litt’s DOA and I received instructions from the factory regarding the charging process. The Theoben Sirocco gas ram system. The SLR98, by contrast, is a fixed barrel design, but both rifles utilize the latest version of Theoben’s own H.E. Theoben / Weihrauch HW90 Gas Ram Charging Pump Kit ... Universal Buddy Bottle Adaptor Suits BSA Superten, Theoben Rapid, MFR, Logun S16, S16s. Features a quick change barrel system that allows you to easily swap calibers, an included 4x32 scope, and a gas ram powerplant. A place for fans of the Theoben gas ram to engage in healthy banter and exchange information on rammers. © 2020 BSA Guns (UK) Ltd. Privacy & Cookies | Terms & Conditions. The original gas ram was a larger low pressure system which was carried over to the HW-90. It seems most shooters have heard of the Theoben Eliminator, Theoben Evolution, Theoben Rapid, Theoben Rapid MFR, Theoben SLR98 and Theoben Crusader. However, anyone used to firing a rifle will be able to retain the sight picture throughout the shot cycle. Theoben created the HE system to get a new patent and touted the new ram as an improvement. Your email address will not be published. The newer HE system has a skinny stem at higher pressure. someone almost got my goat, should I thrash them??? The adapter should only be run up finger tight to the rifle port. Any recommended pumps other than the current PCP hand pumps would be appreciated. I use trial and error to get the velocity and smoothness desired. The old system is more reliable as it puts less stress on the innards. I had crow mag and eliminator he system .22 fac. Equipped with the precision adjustable trigger "Elite" with automatic safety. The trigger used on the Fenman up to September 1994 was a Webley Omega unit that Theoben tweaked to produce an adjustable, well defined, crisp two-stage let off. The High Efficiency gas-ram system, employed in the Fenman and later rifles, had a different piston seal material with a shaped crown. I’ve dropped the pressure to about 20-22 bar. Equipped with the precision adjustable trigger "Elite" with automatic safety. gas-ram system. (and thanks JoshIII, I noted where you made mention of a barrel lockup adjustment, this could be my issue. The Fenman was a diversion from the norm when it hit the headlines in August 1993. Thank you. I too, can be rough on stuff. Better tolerance to wear etc? I have Beeman RX1 and a HW90...max pressure for RX1 is 22 BAR, HW90 is 26 BAR as is clearly marked on rear. BEEMAN / THEOBEN SLR-98.22 Cal. Parker Hale Phoenix It depends on the vintage of the rifle. Theoben created the HE system to get a new patent and touted the new ram as an improvement. It appears there might be a plastic sleeve before the valve. H.E. Andy McLachlan’s memorable multi-shot magazine moment. An inertia weight follows the piston forward and virtually eliminates piston bounce, improving the shot cycle and producing a shot-to-shot consistency in the order of five or six feet per second. For fine-tuning the gas-ram, there is a Schrader valve that can be pumped just like a tyre, using the proprietary Theoben pump or a mountain bike pump. Comes with a single block mount and a Weaver… £399 US$541/€443 Theoben.22 Eliminator-Outfit The adapter is to use the “Slim Jim” pump on both systems. The gauge fits as well. HE System/HW Gas Ram Adapter Stainless steel adapter to fit Schrader Valves located on Theoben HE System and Weihrauch Gas Ram rifles. http://www.airgunspares.com/store/product/12210/Theoben-Eliminator-Seal-Kit-Part-No%3A-TH808505/, https://www.schmidtyracing.com/Schrader-Valve-Cores-p/n-ft-shr-c.htm. Please note this is for the Weihrauch HW90 later models, with Theoben gas ram fitted. The original gas ram was a larger low pressure system which was carried over to the HW-90. I disasseblyed crow and elim,they have the same unit power gas ram ,are the same the internal parts ( brass block,dummy,ram,inertia etc) and the same oring sizes for piston and gas ram parts ( total 8 orings) . Although Theoben Airguns has gone out of business, you can still buy a breakbarrel rifle with a gas ram powerplant based on Ben Taylor’s design: the HW90. Both Theoben pumps and gauge I own all have the same threaded ends. gas ram system. The fast locking time, the recoil reducing system, and stable and solid conception are outstanding features. Have 2 theoben pumps for pre HE guns available. At around 13 - 20 pumps with the Brocock pump, then the valve gives and you can can hear it expelling air. Your email address will not be published. In an exchange w/ JoshIII, in regards to an RX2 (?) VPilot. Thanks. The air rifle with the unique Theoben gas ram system. SLR-98 made in England by Theoben. Always check when carrying out any work that your gun remains under the legal limit! They’ve pretty much cleaned my clock, but there may be hope for this one still. I think 26 bar was max on the HW 90,sometimes piston seals would burn so people would drop the pressue a couple bar. Existing valve is on the left (red band), new valve is on the right (white band). “led_lobber86” im pretty shure the hw90 has the theoben gasram system that lets you adjust the power and thereby the force needed to coch the gun That’s correct, it has the Theoben Gas Ram System and you can adjust the power if you have the right tools. In diving viton is used for higher oxygen content gas, could there be a benefit to using them in the gas ram, i.e. The Schrader valve comes as part of the regular seal kit. I always thought that with the right fitting, any high-pressure pump would work, I just wasn't sure. hi Mike, Ive used a foot pump, Hill, FX, most any asian. that pretty much clears up my confusion. A good number of airgunners are familiar with the fine airgun line produced by Theoben. Post Nov 11, 2009 #1 2009-11-11T06:43. The pre-HE system can use the original bicycle style pump. The Schrader valve is accessed through the hole, but I don't recall being able to see threads. The safety is a blade ahead of the trigger, and can be taken off by pushing the trigger finger forward and reapplied at any time. Thnx again!). The wood is tough and difficult to machine, and became very hard to source due to forest protection. But it is harsh and hold sensitive. Theoben had officially been making gas-ram-powered air rifles since 1980 when they were granted the patent for the system, but Ben Taylor had the idea back in 1978 when he was working on a Suzuki GS1000 motorbike which had air-assisted forks. NOT for Theoben models - see my other listings for Theoben rifles. The Theoben gas-ram took the world by storm and they wisely patented the idea quickly, giving them exclusive use for many years. description The air rifle with the unique Theoben gas ram system. The gas-ram had a short lock time, but gained a reputation for harsh recoil. T&Cs | Rules | Limitations | Privacy Policy. The very fast locking time and the recoil reducing system as well as its stable and solid conception are the outstanding features. thanks, perhaps I’m beginning to see the light. Something like the Hill pumps. 02-06-2017, 01:10 PM #15 bighit The Gas Ram is a self contained sealed power unit designed to replace the factory mainspring. The rifle casing to the top, and the gas rams below. 3,048. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. No maintenance required and totally reliable. Need help - Trying to charge up a Theoben gas ram with RFM adapter. 3,048. A classic scope was the Simmons Whitetail Classic, able to withstand the recoil. The Theoben pumps were designed for low volume and high pressure. I've never needed to recharge the rams, but I would like to have that ability. There is another adapter that is smaller (yellow) that fits the port. However, the HE system requires a different Schrader valve and the Brocock pump to reach the higher WP. Theoben Gas Ram Owners has 912 members. Apparently there is a technique to this that I have to figure out. Gas-piston powerplant There are seals that are less likely to burn if you want max power ,check Maccaris site. The HW 90 (IIRC), requires its own pump adapter - so the RXs will too. An excellent condition Theoben Eliminator HE gas ram break barrel FAC rated (20.8 ft lbs) air rifle in rare .20 calibre. The air rifle with the unique Theoben gas ram system. 1/8 BSP Male thread to fit most hoses. If not, could you please clarify/correct. The Weihrauch HW90 incorporates the Theoben gas ram system. The HE system uses much higher pressure than the RX system. The hardest shooting Eleminator I have ever had (HE) would launch a 14.3 gr. (High Efficiency) gas ram system, seven-shot for sale by Craig Joseph on GunsAmerica - 991534679 I supposed to see screw threads, correct? My ‘Dan lived most of its life as a truck gun. 22" barrel (including moderator), figured walnut stock with rubber recoil pad. ’preciate you making sense out of that for me! Thanks for the info. Theoben and Weihrauch Gas Ram rifles. Start off at 600 psi and take it from there. you may purchase adapter for hand pump or SCUBA fill. Welcome to our Group Devoted to the Greatest most original Designed Air rifle ever made the Theoben Gas Ram No sales please. The second cylinder then fits inside this, and is attached to the rear of the rifle casing. 1/8 BSP Male thread to fit most hoses. An excellent condition Theoben Eliminator HE gas ram break barrel FAC rated (20.8 ft lbs) air rifle in rare.20 calibre. The chamber before the valve is smooth. Comes with a single block mount and a Weaver… £399 US$543/€442. The newer HE system has a skinny stem at higher pressure. I have had problems with other types that use an o-ring to seal. The power has been achieved by the combination of producing the rifle with a long stroke piston and specially developed piston recoil damper valve and the well tried Theoben H.E. The black adapter that most people see online must fit other type of Theobens. and are the same. An excellent condition Theoben Eliminator HE gas ram break barrel FAC rated (20.8 ft lbs) air rifle in rare .20 calibre. I suspected a smaller piston or cylinder at the higher pressure. Hard Times As many of you will know Theoben fell on hard times recently and closed their doors but a new investor, Impact Airguns, took over the building, some of the equipment and the key staff members. Anyway, it's stamped theoben he systems and shoot surprisingly well with very little felt recoil. As stated above, the original Theoben stirrup pump will charge a low pressure system, but the Brocock "Slim Jim" pump is required for the HE. The difference is stock only. Will post what I've learned after ordeal is over. Further, I haven't seen the maximum BAR these guns operate at online. Theoben Gas Ram Forum NO SALES. For my RX, it only took a stroke or two with three being almost too much. Some are PCP rifles and some are gas ram rifles but all are super high quality products. The only reason for the change was the expiration of the original patent. 3,048. Excellent AS N... for sale This is a pristine condition BEEMAN.22 Cal. Theoben .22 Eliminator-Outfit Break Barrel - Gas Ram Air Rifle (R/H) - S/H ... system overloaded. A more modest velocity is smoother and easier to shoot well. The overall affect is that all spring vibration, twang, and … My Crosman .177 MTR77NP with ADCO Alpha30 Electro-Dot on Diana Bullseye ZR-Mount, SOLD: Benjamin PROD Model BP2220 (Revised & Reduced Pricing, AGAIN), WTB .380 Shells for Crosman Trapmaster 1100. Tinkered with the eliminator more this a.m. After pointing a flashlight in there I can see the threads. That is why the HW-90 has proven to be so durable. The problem lies in the trigger. I read about the gummy like seal. There is a scuba tank adapter as well. VPilot. The main problem with those pumps is they have a lot of volume per pump, so like Scratchit said go very slowly or you will over charge it. NOTE: Do not exceed the Rifle Manufacturers recommended pressure. I know RX rifles are between 23-24 BAR from talking to Beeman 20 years ago. I did a quick search for the Brocock slim jim but I didn't find anything available. Airgunwerks, in conjunction with Theoben now offer you the option of making your airgun the best it can be! Need help - Trying to charge up a Theoben gas ram with RFM adapter. Boerne (San Antonio) Field Target Club First Match of 2021 on Saturday, January 16, Nevada State Championships AAFTA GP Match- 6/11, 6/12 & 6/13, 2021, Field Target match Saturday Jan 9th at TCRC, Pleasant Hill NC, Latest Post: Air Arms S400 Repair Our newest member: lognom Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags, Forum Icons: Forum contains no unread posts Forum contains unread posts Mark all read, Topic Icons: Not Replied Replied Active Hot Sticky Unapproved Solved Private Closed. Do not use the gauge! Beeman Gas Ram Dual Caliber Air Rifle. I used to have a gun that prefer... Just got my Bluebook of Airguns Edition 13... took a mo... RE: How the vintage Diana ball-see trigger works, @gratewhitehuntr Thank you for the pics! For the uninitiated, this means that when the rifle is cocked, the piston compresses a sealed chamber of air (Theoben previously used Nitrogen), effectively replacing a normal mainspring. Another feature of the Fenman was the use of an African hardwood called Hyedua (pronounced ‘shedua’) for the stocks. VPilot. Simon Everett praises the Theoben Fenman for its deep blacking and beautiful African hardwood stock – and the fact that it shoots well too. I have a couple of Theoben rifles. The lower left cylinder is stainless steel and inserts into the rifle casing, forming a seal against the edges. Very helpful. Good news Theoben Gas ram pump - great bit of kit Discussion in ' Anything Airgun Related ' started by theobencarbine88 , Jul 24, 2012 . Required fields are marked *. The brand new FX Crown MkII IN STOCK NOW at Baker Airguns... Pyramyd Air launches Build Your Own Airgun! Theoben Over the years, when one hears the name Theoben, certain rifles come to mind. Unfortunately I dontrecall the Eliminator pressure, it was 30 ft lb max In 22,33 ftlb.in 25 ,kelly. pellet at 895 fps. It's very jerky with no … 22" barrel (including moderator), figured walnut stock with rubber recoil pad. I believe that both of my rifles have the HE rams. has 599 members. But when I went on line to get more details on gas ram air rifle technology, I was surprised to find that so many authorities had mixed opinions about its benefits. Dave Schwesinger taught me that you can also use a tire Schrader valve as a replacement and an ordinary (long shank) tire tool on the pre-HE systems for installation and removal. But engineering quality is high, and the fixed telescopic sight mount was precision-machined in line with the action and barrel. Has anyone here done this before? 177 by the way. I have a RX2 in .177. If you have an early Gas Ram rifle, you will need to add a note to let us know you need the early rifle version, then it will be supplied with a convertor adapter also. VPilot. Also good for HW90. (High Efficiency) System is the latest incarnation of the gas-ram, and it’s a highly sophisticated unit with an additional ‘inertia’ piston that follows the main piston and helps to smooth out recoil. Theoben had officially been making gas-ram-powered air rifles since 1980 when they were granted the patent for the system, but Ben Taylor had the idea back in 1978 when he was working on a Suzuki GS1000 motorbike which had air-assisted forks. The only reason for the change was the expiration of the original patent. Comes with a single block mount and a Weaver… £399 US$544/€442. As JimB notes, 2 1/2 was too much and had to vent a bit. Any ideas? Scroll to Top The tiger striping and almost pearlescent appearance make these stocks very attractive. Power is unchanging for thousands of rounds. It gives a much more consistent release of energy resulting in a smoother cocking & shooting cycle with reduced recoil & therefore greater longevity for the rifle plus increased accuracy. 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